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post #11 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-10-2017, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
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Well this being an M/S tire or similar to it in terms of function then we're much better off than someone in a sedan running some regular passenger vehicle tire, here its different. Actually i've seen guys run this very same tire in winter without issue, part of that is in how they drive
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Damp pavement traction is bad majority of the time. Kinda just the way physics are. When there's enough water on the ground, it's essentially a better test of tires wet performance. Dampness brings the oils to the top of the road surface and there isn't really a rainfall for long enough to wash it away, so it just lingers lowering the coefficient of friction
That's essentially it right there.

Now, you do realize that the extreme treads are set there for more extreme conditions such as snow, dirt, mud, heavy rain or water, etc. When it comes to running on the damp street, there is seriously not much of a difference between this M/S tire and a passenger vehicle M/S tire.

And winter driving isn't partly based on how you drive. It IS based on how you drive. It doesn't matter what kind of tire you have. I've gone through winters with all season tires that had barely any tread left on them, you just have to know what to do and how to react.
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You can get through winter with all season tires, yes. But that's when you're driving very slowly and braking way ahead of time. At that point you may as well spring for a set of winter tires.

This really only applies if you live in colder climates. For everyone else the factory tires will work just fine unless you go off road. Then you'll have to get a set with deeper treads.
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With the way things are going, even if you live in a busy city like New York winter tires are still needed, just the extra bit of traction it provides during colder conditions where all seasons can give up, will save you a lot of trouble. Plus when you divide the cost up by 4 winters, its not that bad. Some people even stretch them out to 5-6 seasons, but at that point you need to pay close attention to the expiry date and condition.
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Really depends on the drivers and if you're a low mileage one. Most drivers will wear out a set of tires in less than five years and you have to take into account the loss of flexibility over time. But this is for cars, not too sure about pickup tires.
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Really depends on the drivers and if you're a low mileage one. Most drivers will wear out a set of tires in less than five years and you have to take into account the loss of flexibility over time. But this is for cars, not too sure about pickup tires.
Very true.

But even if you don't drive as often in the winter, you have to watch out for regulations and apparently more and more cities are requiring you run winter tires.

Not only that but we might start to see insurance companies charging more for not having them.
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post #17 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-17-2017, 10:23 AM
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Doesn't that already happen? A question whenever I'm looking for insurance quotes is always "Is the vehicle equipped with 4 winter tires during the winter months"
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From what I heard not all insurance companies ask because well, its taking money out of their pocket. Not telling 1000 owners about this and saving each one of them $100 annually adds up real quick.

Any time it comes to something that reduces your rate, it's almost always a case of you having to approach them.
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That's true as well... it also helps if you go through a broker as well
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So far brokers have been able to help me get the cheapest quotes out there so that's always my first go-to. But when talking to insurance companies you have to really pry out of them in what ways can you get a discount. Then tell them you're getting a cheaper price elsewhere and see what they can do about it.
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